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This report a must read before you read anything else;  Legislative Fund   July 21, 2005
This March 21, 2005 Ohio Election Activities and Observations report from American Center for Voting Rights must be read next before you read anything else - it states in part:
Vote fraud was reported in every corner of the state and the fraudulent voter registrations totaled in the thousands...
Note the organizations which are the subject of the Ohio report:  ACORN/Project Vote associated with ACT, SEIU, NAACP National Voter Fund through the America Votes Coalition, a coordinating council of approximately 30 liberal interest groups...
America Coming Together received... approximately $10 million from billionaire financier and  activist George Soros... Harold Ickes, President of ACT...
The report is eye-opening and includes references to many newspaper articles such as
Dead Man on Voter Rolls Sparks Inquiry Cleveland Plain Dealer  Michael Scott, 9/23/04
Third must read:
Issue date: 11/3/04
Fourth must read Employment policies Institute
Fifth August 2, 2005 Patrick Ruffini Blog caught the report's merit
The American Center for Voting Rights has released a report on fraud, intimidation and suppression in the 2004 election which I highly commend to those interested in such matters, e.g. everyone 'round these parts. Is it going to take an election decided by fraud and improperly cast votes to get the media to wake up and realize that the problem isn't always too few votes being counted, but quite often too many?
After that read

The Berkeley study on E-voting in Florida reads like a staggering indictment... of its authors:...


While New laws will require passports for Canada, Mexico there is still non-uniformity across the United States in laws which apply to voter registration and voter identification at the polling place.
As the following piece shows, opponents to the voter identification for all at the polling place won't admit that there is indeed voter fraud in voter registration .
Meanwhile, the Pennsylvania legislature has passed a bill (HB 1318) that would make the state's election system worse, not better. The bill would require voters to produce identification in order to vote, despite the absence of any evidence of voters attempting to be someone they're not. Governor Rendell has, quite wisely, said he'll veto the bill. The AP has this story, and Governor Rendell's letter is here. Governor Rendell's letter explains his reasons for the veto, noting the recent decision on Georgia's ID bill...: Governor Rendell is right on target....
More continued

Tokaji applauds Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell for a veto of recent legislation which would have applied the same law currently applied to First Time Voters to all Pennsylvania voters
While the Diven case involves nominating petitions, the problem is that the name of the deceased persons whose names appeared on the state nominating petitions remain on the county's voter registration rolls. 
First and foremost, the voter registration rolls in all counties in Pennsylvania need to be purged of names of deceased voters, and names of those who have moved out of state.
The SURE database was supposed to minimize many registration problems like the above.  Obviously, a problem remains with implementing SURE.
A voter identification system in the state would go a long way to ensure valid voters are registered, and the database could be updated accordingly. (Citizen Mom)

common Cause of Pennsylvania opposes PA Voter ID
That is something to know in light of Common Cause is among organizations that support a PA Constitutional Convention.
In a blog post entitled "RightMarch fabricates fraud charges" displays the charges included in a long listing presented by 
Among the charges:
Ohio's voter-registration rolls contain more than 120,000 duplicate names, and an untold number of ineligible voters, such as people who have moved out of the state. A review of the rolls by the Columbus Dispatch even found a murder victim and two suspected terrorists among the "eligible voters"!
Ohio's voter-registration rolls contain more than 120,000 duplicate names
Washington Times Donald Lambro
October 28, 2004
There seem to be more instances of skullduggery this time in the wake of a huge increase in voter registration. Ohio's registration rolls are said to have 120,000 duplicate names, including a murder victim and a couple of suspected terrorists.
    In Ohio's Franklin County, there are more registered voters than there are voter-eligible residents, according to the U.S. census figures. There are 20 counties in Colorado that similarly appear to have more voters than people qualified to vote. Thousands of Florida voters are also registered to vote in another state.
Aired October 26, 2004 Anderson Cooper 360 cites Washington Post
COOPER: ... take a look at what's brewing right now in Ohio.

According to "The Washington Post," Ohio's voter registration rolls contain more than 120,000 duplicate names, and review of these rolls reportedly found a murder victim and two suspected terrorists among the eligible.

Republicans have already filed 35,000 challenges to voters' eligibility in Ohio, and at least one lawsuit has been about the weight of the paper that voters used to register.

VotePA opposed to PA Voter identification bill...
Candidates dropping out before challenges are even heard in a court of law.  Allegations of forgery using registered names of college students, deceased persons, and more.  We're waiting for Fido and FeeFee...
But groups remained opposed to a voter ID for all voters in PA and the nation.  Why?

...There is no proven need for the voter ID.

Supporters say voter ID’s are needed to prevent widespread voter fraud. Yet proponents have failed to show any reliable proof that the integrity of any Pennsylvania election has been compromised by someone impersonating a registered voter. The National Commission on Election Reform found that there is NO evidence that the fraud which voter ID REQUIREMENTS SEEK to address is even prevalent in the U.S.

Voter ID and Fraud: Prove It  Tova Andrea Wang, The Century Foundation, 7/28/2005

Governor Ed Rendell, statement upon veto of voter ID bill

Illegal Immigrants and voting fraud rampant in western states and spreading in areas with lax driver's license law requirements, double voting in New York, Baker/Carter Commission Election Report Urges Photo IDs, Paper Trails And Impartial Oversight yet, organizations, Governor Rendell, Acorn, ACLU, and others what don't get it... even one vote using a fake id, or someone else's name diminishes the vote of everyone else...

Carter-Baker Panel to Call for Voting Fixes

Election Report Urges Photo IDs, Paper Trails And Impartial Oversight

By Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 19, 2005; Page A03

Warning that public confidence in the nation's election system is flagging, a commission headed by former president Jimmy Carter and former secretary of state James A. Baker III today will call for significant changes in how Americans vote, including photo IDs for all voters, verifiable paper trails for electronic voting machines and impartial administration of elections.

The report concludes that, despite changes required under the Help America Vote Act of 2002, far more must be done to restore integrity to an election system that suffers from sloppy management, treats voters differently not only from state to state but also within states, and that too often frustrates rather than encourages voters' efforts to participate in what is considered a basic American right...


Carter-Baker Panel to Call for Voting Fixes

Election Report Urges Photo IDs, Paper Trails And Impartial Oversight

By Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 19, 2005; Page A03
The most controversial recommendation calls for all voters to produce a standard photo identification card before being allowed to vote. The commission proposes that, by 2010, voters be required to use either the Real ID card, which Congress this spring mandated as the driver's license of the future in all states. For about 12 percent of eligible voters who do not have a driver's license, the commission says states should provide at no cost an identification card that contains the same key information.

Critics of voter ID cards say the requirement could raise privacy issues and intimidate or discourage some Americans, particularly the elderly, the poor and minorities, from participating in elections. To alleviate those concerns, the Carter-Baker commission urges states to make it easy for non-drivers to obtain such cards and seeks measures to ensure privacy and security for all voters. The commission report states that by adopting a uniform voter ID card, minorities would be better protected from shifting identification standards at individual polling places...


Approximately 9 million Americans move from one state to another in any given year. The commission cited news reports asserting that almost 46,000 voters from New York City were also registered in Florida. The panel recommended that the U.S. Election Assistance Commission oversee a system to allow easy sharing of state voter databases as well as requiring the use of a uniform identifier -- the voter's Social Security number -- to help eliminate duplicate registrations...

Governor Ed Rendell excerpt why he vetoed voter ID
Others have suggested that this voter identification provision is needed to reduce the instances of voter fraud in Pennsylvania.  However, I have not seen any evidence of widespread voter impersonation in Pennsylvania that would justify imposing this additional burden on voters.  Elizabeth Milner, the Chair of the Pennsylvania League of Women Voters, agrees.  In her letter urging a veto, Ms. Milner says, “Show us the fraud.  Proponents of House Bill 1318 have failed to document a single instance in which the outcome of a Pennsylvania election was affected by individuals posing as registered voters.  Indeed, the National Commission on Election Reform found that there is no evidence that the fraudulent acts the voter ID provision seeks to address exists anywhere in the United States.”
Proponents of House Bill 1318 have failed to document a single instance in which the outcome of a Pennsylvania election was affected by individuals posing as registered voters.
Well Governor, we will never know whether the election was affected by individuals posing as registered voters because names of deceased remain on voter registration rolls across Pennsylvania, and names of persons who have "moved" to another state remain on the registration rolls, and even when such cases are found of double voting between Pennsylvania and New York or Pennsylvania and Florida, it is difficult to prosecute. 
Even when such "votes" are voided, the outcome of the election remains the status quo because officials don't want to prosecute and make a spectacle of their little county.
Rendell cites the National Commission on Election Reform
Now wait a moment aren't these the same members who determined there is a need for uniform voter identification requirements?
President Jimmy Carter
The Honorable James A. Baker, III
the Report Chapter 6  Verification of Identity
While the report notes the potential for a burden on poor and urban to suffer costs associated with obtaining photo identification, such as a driver's license, which the report claims would be a deterrent, the report provides this solution:  the expense and trouble of obtaining a photo identification card could be a significant deterrent to their participation in the electoral process, unless states were to  issue official identification at state expense and on state initiative."

Carter, Baker discuss proposed election reforms

'Centrist consensus' includes photo IDs, paper receipts

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 03/22/06

Former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James A. Baker III called for U.S. election reforms Wednesday that include uniform photo identification cards and a paper trail on electronic voting machines.

As leaders of a bipartisan Commission on Federal Election Reform, Carter and Baker discussed some of the commission's 87 recommendations for Congress and state legislators at a forum that began late Wednesday morning at the Carter Center in Atlanta.

Baker said the commission strove to reach a "centrist consensus" in favor of advocating entrenched partisan views.

The commission's most controversial recommendations called for photo IDs and paper receipts at electronic voting machines. The IDs make sense, both men said, as long as state officials make aggressive efforts to find would-be voters who lack photo IDs and provide them cards for free.

"We honestly believe you're going to see more registrations," Baker said. "You're going to see greater certainty as to who is showing up at the polling place."

Baker made his remarks on videotape after a conflict prevented his attendance.

Commission members said 26 states require photo ID to vote, up from 11 just a few years ago. They said paper ballots, or receipts, would remove doubt among voters worried about tech-savvy partisans tinkering with machines to manipulate the outcome.

Portions to be broadcast

The commission presented its report several months ago. Wednesday's forum, organized in part by Court TV and National Public Radio, was billed as the first public forum about the report. Portions will air on Court TV and public radio...


Guess Governor Rendell didn't speak to former President Jimmy Carter before the veto.

Response to the Report of the National Commission on Election Reform  
 Brennan Center for Justice, 9/19/2005 
This document, responding to the report of the Baker-Carter Commission, will surely become the authoritative statement on the flaws of that report, and on the damaging potential impacts of its misguided voter ID requirement in particular. It lays out in detail how the ID Requirements will severely burden voters; that many Americans do not and will not have the requisite Photo ID; that the ID recommendations will operate as a poll tax; the ID recommendation will disproportionately burden people of color; the limited types of fraud that could be prevented by the requirements are extremely rare; and the recommendations are inconsistent with Constitutional and other federally guaranteed statutory rights
Maybe Rendell and others have relied on the Brennan Center
Notice the Brennan Center for Justice aka connected to Century Foundation and notice who writes for the Century Foundation...
Photo ID Requirement Compromises Voter Rights   
Tova Andrea Wang, Jonah H. Goldman, The Press-Enterprise, 11/6/2005
(* Wang has also written under the banner of the Century Foundation)
Links to the report and more reports and studies, seems pretty comprehensive
As if this could get even more confusing
  • The Century Foundation and the University of Virginia's Miller Center announced creation of a National Commission on Federal Election Reform, co-chaired by Howard Baker and Lloyd Cutler, on Jan. 30, 2001.  Former presidents Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford served as active honorary co-chairs; Robert H. Michel replaced Baker as a co-chair when Bush nominated him as Ambassador to Japan.  The Commission held its first meeting on March 1 and held four public hearings (March 26, April 12, May 24, and June 5).  It presented its final report, with thirteen policy recommendations, on July 31, 2001 in a ceremony in the Rose Garden at the White House: "To Assure Pride and Confidence in the Electoral Process."
  • is The Century Foundation's new informational Web site on election reform. *Wang reform elections.Century Foundation/Brennan Center for Justice/...



    Well this is just great, isn't it.  It appears Wang, writing under the reform elections banner, in "Photo ID Requirement Compromises Voter Rights" is dissing the Baker/Carter report which the Century Foundation co-commissioned with the Miller Foundation.  The Century Foundation created the reform elections site/project!
    Excerpt read the entire piece
    The national Commission on Federal Election Reform, led by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker, had a good opportunity to examine the systemic problems facing the American electoral system.

    Unfortunately, the commission failed to live up to its mission by refusing to objectively analyze all of the available evidence. The result is a mixed bag, with the recommendations that will buttress confidence in American elections being overshadowed by provisions that will lead to widespread and unnecessary disenfranchisement.

    The recommendation that most suffers from the commission's fatal methodological flaws is the proposal that all voters present a nationally uniform driver's license, the REAL ID card, in order to vote. Requiring universal government-issued photo IDs at the polls is a modern day poll tax and will not solve the problems of fraud and misconduct that occasionally plague our electoral system....

    The disenfranchising effect of the commission's photo ID proposal is made worse by the fact that it will not solve any real problems. The ID proposal is purportedly intended to prevent fraud by voters who misrepresent their identity at the polls. In fact, the evidence shows that the incidence of this type of fraud is extraordinarily small.

    Despite the report's use of the 2004 Washington state election as evidence to support the ID provision, after lawyers in that state searched furiously for fraudulent votes because of the litigation surrounding the gubernatorial race, only six cases of alleged double voting were found.

    Similarly, in Ohio, a statewide survey found that of the more than 9 million votes cast in that state's 2002 and 2004 general elections combined, a total of four were found by the Board of Elections and county prosecutors to be legally actionable.

    The commission's recommendation on provisional ballots—simply that there be uniform counting standards—is flawed because it falls fatally short by failing to give any guidance as to what those standards should be.

    It's critical that states clarify what standard applies when a voter casts a ballot in the wrong polling place or precinct but in the correct jurisdiction. The vote cast should count for those races in which the voter was eligible (e.g., presidential and senatorial).

    Hmmm more research is needed to determine whether the Baker/Carter commission recommended only the Real ID - from my reading of Chapter 6 from the report, it doesn't appear such a suggestion is made - the suggestion is for uniformity among the states, not a mismatch of different voter id provisions.

    The voter identification would also not necessarily be contained only to voters at the polls - it could also apply to those who seek absentee ballots  Pennsylvania legislation which passed both the House and Senate was vetoed by Governor Rendell.   Pennsylavania legislation included the provision - to supply a copy of form of an identification with the application for an absentee ballot.  The PA Law as revised, also would have excluded the new provision to disallow convicted felons to vote, only those in prison currently are not permitted to vote.

    Similar legislation to PA's could be uniformly implemented - the legislation did not require specifically a photo id or a driver's license - in fact there were a number of identification forms which would have been adequate. (Citizen Mom)


    Well the mystery is settled
    Wang was on the former committee!
    Carter-Baker Report: Some Bad Fixes for the Wrong Problems   
    Tova Andrea Wang, The Century Foundation, 9/19/2005
    It is truly shocking how, given all the problems in the voting system and continued disenfranchisement, the terms of the debate have shifted to that of so-called "ballot integrity." It is reminiscent of how conservatives have misappropriated the concept of patriotism and the American flag, and used the power of language and messaging to distort the discussion, by using terms such as "partial birth abortion" or "death tax." The latest example of this is the just released report of the commission on election reform co-chaired by Jimmy Carter and James Baker.

    The 2001 bi-partisan commission co-chaired by former President Carter and Gerald Ford, which The Century Foundation co-sponsored and I was on the staff of (and which had an entirely different membership), had a very different approach. There were differences about how best to implement the recommendations of the report. However, while we were concerned with accuracy and preventing fraud, we did not see that as a goal that was in conflict with ensuring the right to vote.

    It was the 2001 commission that promoted the idea of statewide voter registration databases, so that we could both prevent fraud and ensure every registered voter was on the voting list the list and able to vote. We proposed the idea that any voter who comes to the polls and does not appear on the list be given a provisional ballot. We stated that when a felon completes his sentence, he should get his voting rights back. We enumerated several ways to ensure that "no individual, group or community [holds] a justified belief that the electoral process works less well for some than for others." We even recommended an election day holiday!

    This stands in stark contrast to the entire tenor of the Carter-Baker report, which presumes that fraud committed by voters is the biggest problem confronting our election system. There is simply no strong evidence of this, and some of the remedies proposed will take us backwards in the fight to increase voter participation.

    In addition to proposing limited felon re-enfranchisement and providing negligible input into the very important and controversial provisional ballot questions, the report really focuses on requiring all voters to present government issued photo ID, such as the REAL ID, in order to vote, and promoting the expensive and complex idea of making all statewide databases "interoperable" nationwide. As I and others have documented repeatedly (see here, here, and here) voter fraud at the polling place is not our major problem, and identification requirements serve to disenfranchise many groups of voters.

    Here's what the problems are in American elections today: too few—not too many—people vote; the voter registration system is not working for voters or elections administrators; voters are still systematically disenfranchised, due to such policies as felon disenfranchisement, flawed felon purges, inaccessible polling sites, misallocation of voting machines, and inappropriate challenges at the polls; voters are individually disenfranchised by continued, often race based, voter intimidation and deceptive practices; and there is a general mistrust of the election system by the American people.

    Why don't we start there instead.

    Tova Andrea Wang is senior program officer and democracy fellow at The Century Foundation.

    First, there is no strong evidence of widespread voter fraud using fake names, deceased names, double voting in different states - get real - there is strong evidence, the unfortunate thing is rarely are such frauds caught until after the so-called time period to bring challenges, and other considerations like lack of local money to investigate allegations.
    There has been fraud in the voter registration and application process to acquire absentee ballots.  Ballots like that are rarely challenged because individual's names remain on the voter registration rolls even after the individual has died.
    And it's still happening as the following incidents on this site display.
    Some will claim - six isn't enough - but six names which are not caught and votes are cast using six names can throw a local election, and can throw a national election.
    In Fayette County, recently, a mayor's race was won by only about a dozen votes.  A couple of electors were challenged because they were in the precinct area on election day, but had voted absentee.
    Second, the Baker/Carter report does not specifically only recommend the Real ID - it calls for uniformity in provisions among the states - and that uniformity can be state-driven, not necessarily a national driven voter identification system.

     positions Brennan Center

    Election Reform and HAVA Implementation

    The right of each American citizen to vote and to have his or her vote counted is protected by a variety of federal and state constitutional provisions and statutes. At the same time, the realization of that right is dependent on many different systems of election administration in each state and in thousands of local jurisdictions. An important challenge facing the country is to ensure that these systems in fact do guarantee the right to vote and ensure the integrity of elections.

    The federal Help America Vote Act ("HAVA") has promised significant improvements in the administration of American elections but also opens the door to significant threats to voters’ rights. Since HAVA was passed into law in October of 2002, every state has undergone substantial changes in its election laws and procedures. We have provided legal and legislative counseling to federal and state officials and advocates in many states concerning the implementation of HAVA’s provisions, litigated several lawsuits to protect voters’ rights, and collaborated with computer scientists and other experts to enhance the reliability and security of electronic voting and registration systems. We also work in coalition with other organizations seeking to expand access to the franchise and ensure the integrity of elections.

    The National Network on Election Reform created in an effort to communicate its analysis on the shortcomings with both the process the Carter Baker Commission on Federal Election Reform used to facilitate its report and the content within the report.

    The National Network’s detailed analysis of the Carter-Baker Commission’s Report and Recommendations is available here.[PDF]

    Commission Member Spencer Overton’s
    Dissent on the Carter-Baker recommendations at Read additional comments from Overton at

    Citizen Group “Disappointed” in Carter-Baker Election Recommendations, League of Women Voter’s Statement on the recommendations

    Sen. Obama's Resolution in the Senate on photo identification requirements [PDF]
    Demos Responds to Carter-Baker Commission Report

    ACLU on Carter-Baker Recommendations

    Commentary on Carter-Baker Commission

    A Mistaken Identity, The San Francisco Chronicle

    Carter-Baker election reforms imperiled by its partisan voter ID mandate, Richard Hasen

    Critiques of the Carter-Baker Election Commission Report, Spencer Overton and Rob Richie

    Ensuring one voter, one vote, Cincinnati Post

    U.S. Rep. Conyers on Carter-Baker Recommendations

    Howard Dean on Carter-Baker Recommendations

    Rick Hasen’s Comments on the recommendations on his website,

    Baker-Carter Election Reform Hearing: Outrageous, by Congressman John Conyers

    Electoral reform groups call for James Baker's resignation from electoral reform commission, Free Press

    A New Motto for Election Reform: Be Prepared , The Century Foundation

    Silenced And Sidelined, Again ,

    Baker-Carter commission recommends national voter ID card, The Raw Story

    Denying Access to the Ballot, New York Times editorial

    Reforming the Vote, The Washington Post editorial

    Carter-Baker Report: Some Bad Fixes for the Wrong Problems, Tova Wang of the Century Foundation

    Comments from Election Law Professor Dan Tokaji at

    Brennan Center cites only these studies to refute findings of voter fraud using fake identification, and please note the wording "have been convicted."
  • A comprehensive survey of alleged voter fraud by Loraine Minnite and David Callahan has shown that the incidence of individual voter fraud at the polls is minimal. Lorraine Minnite and David Callahan, Demos, Securing the Vote: An Analysis of Election Fraud (2003). Read the report

  • The Coalition on Homelessness & Housing in Ohio & League of Women Voters Coalition report, Let the People Vote (2005), found only four instances of ineligible persons voting or attempting to vote in 2002 and 2004, out of 9,078,728 votes cast. Read the report

  • The U.S. Department of Justice figures cited in the draft report show that since October 2002, only 52 individuals have been convicted of federal voter fraud out of 196,139,871 votes cast in federal elections.
  • Signature challenges prompt Rep. Diven to withdraw from May primary

    Wednesday, March 29, 2006

    By James O'Toole, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    In the face of a challenge to his nominating petitions, state Rep. Michael Diven, R-Brookline, yesterday officially withdrew from the Republican ballot in the May 16 primary.

    But while Mr. Diven's name will not be on the primary ballot, it does not necessarily mean the end of his candidacy for re-election.

    Mr. Diven, a former Democrat who turned Republican to make an unsuccessful run for state Senate last year, said he hadn't made up his mind on his next step, but suggested that he was inclined toward an attempt to defend his seat.

    "We're still evaluating our options," he said. "Obviously, if I wanted to retire I wouldn't have circulated petitions and sought re-election. The question is, logistically, what decision makes the most sense, but I'm definitely interested in exploring those."

    Mr. Diven could compete for the Republican nomination as a write-in candidate. Since there are no other Republican candidates, he would win the nomination if he were to receive at least 300 votes.

    He also has the option of running for re-election as an independent in the fall, a process that would require he drop his Republican voter registration and submit 430 signatures from registered voters in the district by Aug. 1.

    At this point, Chelsa Wagner, a lawyer who is a member of a prominent political family in the South Hills district, is the only official candidate for the District 22 seat. She won the endorsement of the Democratic Party's committee members in the district and is all but certain to be the party's nominee in the heavily Democratic district.

    Mr. Diven's nominating petitions had been challenged on a variety of grounds. His opponents claimed they contained numerous errors in the names of, and information about, the signers, and that in a handful of cases, purported signatures came from people who were deceased.

    A hearing on the case had been scheduled for today, but in view of Mr. Diven's withdrawal, Commonwealth Court, in an unsigned order, dismissed the case as moot.

    Mr. Diven acknowledged that his withdrawal was a tacit admission his petitions were vulnerable to the legal challenge, but he insisted that whatever flaws they contained were chiefly technical. He insisted that neither he nor any members of his staff would have knowingly submitted false information.

    "Some of this is the problems that I experienced in switching to Republican. The group that was always involved in the past in compiling signatures wasn't available to me," he said. "I can tell you, speaking for myself personally, I didn't engage in anything that was fraud or anything of that nature. ... I have always conducted myself within the letter of the law."

    Mr. Diven, a former city councilman who was first elected to the Legislature in 2000, characterized the controversy over the petitions as the latest chapter in a long-running feud with the Democratic leadership of the state House.

    After his election, Mr. Diven had several public clashes with the Democratic caucus leadership. In 2004, Rep. William DeWeese, the Democratic leader, took the unusual step of supporting Mr. Diven's primary opponent. Mr. Diven won that race, despite financial and logistical support of senior Democrats for his opponent, county Councilman Rich Nerone.

    The rift set the stage for the Republican Party's recruitment of Mr. Diven last year as its candidate for the state Senate vacancy created when Jack Wagner became state auditor general. Mr. Wagner is an uncle of Chelsa Wagner. In a high-profile contest marked by unusually heavy spending on both sides, Mr. Diven lost the Senate race to Democrat Wayne Fontana.

    "One thing that's important to note ... is that this wasn't some grass-roots challenge," Mr. Diven said of the court case that prompted his withdrawal. "This came from [Democratic leaders] Bill DeWeese and [Rep.] Mike Veon."


    One can discern in the following article, politics plays a large part. state Rep. Michael Diven, R-Beechview withdrew his name from the race, and where does the investigation into irregularites go?  Nowhere, and that's the problem, in part.  Local law enforcement doesn't want to investigate, the state doesn't want to investigate, so the "evidence" that could have been found, is basically "not found."
    That's one reason evidence is often lacking because the cases of irregularites gets swept under the rug.
    The federal government should investigate in all of these instances, but the federal government can't even keep the terrorist "watch" lists accurate, timely, or useful.
    By David M. Brown
    Thursday, March 30, 2006

    Sandra Bradley knew her husband was registered as a Republican, but she was stunned to learn his name was on a recent petition supporting the re-election bid of state Rep. Michael Diven, R-Beechview.

    There's no way James J. Bradley Jr. signed the petition March 4, as it indicates, she said. The Baldwin Township man died more than three years ago.

    "It's amazing," Sandra Bradley said Wednesday. "It's really scary out there, when they talk about identity theft."

    Her husband wasn't the only deceased voter named on the petition. A Pittsburgh Tribune-Review search of obituaries found matches for at least three other names of dead people.

    On Tuesday, Diven, a Democrat-turned-Republican, withdrew as a candidate for re-election in the 22nd Legislative District because his nominating petitions were being challenged in Commonwealth Court. He has denied that he or "anyone close" to him had knowledge of how deceased voters appeared on the paperwork.

    "It was not intentional," Diven said.

    Al Bowman, a spokesman for the state House Republican Campaign Committee, who returned a call for Diven yesterday, said Diven has no plans to re-enter the race as a write-in or independent candidate.

    "At this point, he's focused on finishing out his term," Bowman said.

    Three Republicans from the district challenged the paperwork Diven needed to qualify for the May 16 ballot, alleging his petitions contain the signatures of six dead people and other invalid signatures.

    Sandra Bradley said she was upset that her late husband's name appeared on the petition. James Bradley, who was an electrical engineer before his retirement, died of a heart attack Dec. 5, 2002 at age 69.

    "This is almost like an invasion," she said. "It's actually forgery that somebody would sign a name like that."

    Other deceased voters on a petition circulated in early March included Samuel C. Weston, 83, of Baldwin Township, who died March 30, 2005; Margaretha Meyer, a former Baldwin Township resident who had moved to Ohio before her death, at 79, on Nov. 12, 2003; and Anna Rose Puglin, 82, also of Baldwin Township, who died March 16, 2005, according to obituary files.

    The petition that included dead people listed Diven's chief of staff, Debora L. Romaniello, as its circulator. She signed an affidavit, swearing the signatures collected were valid to the best of her knowledge. Romaniello did not return a call seeking comment.

    Republicans contended House Minority Leader H. William DeWeese, D-Greene County, was behind the challenges to Diven.

    Mike Manzo, DeWeese's chief of staff, said Diven should "blame himself."

    "From what I understand, there was possible criminal activity on his end," Manzo said.

    Bowman, speaking for Diven, said that wasn't true.

    Diven withdrew from the race so that constituents who signed his petition wouldn't be "dragged into an ugly court case," Bowman said. "Essentially, it ends the case."

    "In its totality, we stand behind the signatures on the petition and believe we would have been successful," he said.

    Brian McDonald, a spokesman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, which administers legislative elections, said any criminal implications in such races are determined by a district attorney or other local jurisdiction.

    Mike Manko, spokesman for Allegheny County District Attorney Stephen A. Zappala Jr., said the county Election Board has decided in previous election-related cases whether county police should investigate.

    "On its face, this seems to be an irregularity that needs to be looked at closer by that process," Manko said.


    "absence of any evidence of voters attempting to be someone they're not"
    Where does Tokaji vote?
    Obviously not in the United States of America.
    How about six voters who uses the name of a deceased person to vote in an election? 
    Investigation shows votes cast under registrations of the dead

    Frank C. Smith Sr., according to county records, cast a ballot in the special election last year for Jasper County sheriff.

    Smith worked as a truck driver and raised a family on the values of hard work and civic participation. But as his family will tell you, he didn’t vote for sheriff last year.
    “He couldn’t have. He was cremated,” said his wife, Martha Smith.
    Martha Smith said she and her husband were married for nearly 40 years before his death on July 12, 2000. She said they would frequently travel together when her husband went on the road.

    She said things just haven’t been the same since she lost her husband, and she “can’t imagine why the county would be saying he voted.”

    “Somebody must have made a mistake,” she said. “That just doesn’t make any sense.”

    Frank Smith Sr. was living in Neosho at the time of his death, but had previously lived at 322 S. Liberty St. in Webb City. He was never removed from the Webb City voting rolls. A ballot cast in the 2003 election shows that someone voted under his name, although the street address was scratched out and changed to 319 Liberty St.

    A Globe investigation found at least six people in the Joplin area who state and county records list as having voted even though they were deceased. Hundreds more dead people apparently remain on the area voting rolls, including some who have been dead for nearly a decade.

    A Globe analysis of Missouri voter registration records and death records showed at least 11,700 people statewide who have died yet still appear eligible to vote in November’s election.

    Of the more than 350 such names in Jasper, Newton and McDonald counties, six have been identified in state and county voting records — by name, date of birth and Social Security number — as having voted after their deaths ...

    Six not enough?

    How about incidents - finding clear evidence of fraud, like the following...
    Inquiry finds evidence of fraud in election

    Investigators said Tuesday they found clear evidence of fraud in the Nov. 2 election in Milwaukee, including more than 200 cases of felons voting illegally and more than 100 people who voted twice, used fake names or false addresses or voted in the name of a dead person...

    Officials said charges will be filed in coming weeks, as individual cases are reviewed and more evidence is gathered.

    Nonetheless, it is likely that many - perhaps most - of those who committed fraud won't face prosecution because city records are so sloppy that it will be difficult to establish cases that will stand up in court.

    And even now, three months after the investigation, officials have not been able to close a gap of 7,000 votes, with more ballots cast than voters listed. Officials said the gap remains at 4,609.

    U.S. Attorney Steve Biskupic likened it to trying to prove "a bank embezzlement if the bank cannot tell how much money was there in the first place."

    Biskupic announced the preliminary findings at a news conference, along with Milwaukee County District Attorney E. Michael McCann, who is also overseeing the joint inquiry.

    Tuesday's announcement could breathe new life into the Republican-backed photo ID debate, which did not survive a veto from Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle and might instead eventually go to voters as a proposed constitutional amendment.

    A photo ID requirement might have caught some of the problems highlighted in Tuesday's preliminary report. It notes cases of people voting in the name of a dead person or as someone else. Investigators located some people listed as voting who said they did not vote.

    In other cases, according to Tuesday's report, people "registered and voted with identities and addresses that cannot in any way be linked to a real person."...

    In response to the findings, Sen. Joe Leibham (R-Sheboygan) said as early as next month he would advance a bill similar to the one vetoed by Doyle. It also could be part of the recommendations from a Legislative Council task force that has been meeting on reforms.

    While Doyle has argued the measure would make Wisconsin one of the strictest states in the nation, very few other states allow same-day registration.

    Assembly Speaker John Gard (R-Peshtigo) said if Doyle again vetoes the requirement, he would move to make it part of the state constitution, a two-year process that requires a statewide referendum but does not require the approval of the governor.

    "The next presidential election in Wisconsin, I guarantee you'll need a photo ID to vote," said Gard, who is running for the U.S. House. "I'll get this done if it is the last thing I do around here."

    U.S. Rep. Mark Green, a Green Bay Republican who has introduced a national photo ID requirement, said: "People are having their faith in the election system shaken. This news will make it much, much worse."

    Green is running for governor, as is Milwaukee County Executive Scott Walker, who also backs a photo ID requirement.

    "Clearly, there is proof that fraud took place in the November 2 election," Walker said.

    Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett attended the news conference, an unusual occurrence for an announcement by prosecutors.

    From the start, Barrett said he welcomed the inquiry but also noted at several points in recent months that he had seen no hard evidence of fraud in the system.

    He acknowledged Tuesday the findings pointed to fraud and said again "any individual who committed fraud (should) be prosecuted."

    Asked if a photo ID requirement would have made a difference, he said it would not have prevented felons from voting and would have had little impact on other problems.

    Biskupic said there was no indication of a widespread conspiracy to commit voter fraud, or of any knowledge or involvement by poll workers or any other city officials.

    The city's record-keeping problems meant investigators from the FBI and Milwaukee Police Department have logged more than 1,000 hours reviewing the 70,000 same-day registration cards, including 1,300 that could not be processed because of missing names, addresses and other information.

    Indeed, about 100 cards described as "of interest to investigators" cannot be located, officials said. And within the past few weeks, police found a previously lost box of the cards at the Election Commission offices.

    Biskupic and McCann said they remain troubled that three months after the investigation began that city officials have been unable to account for a gap of about 4,600 votes, with more ballots counted than people listed as voting.

    That reflects a new assessment of the 7,000-vote gap first identified by the Journal Sentinel. Although city election officials initially blamed postelection data entry for the flaws, the newspaper found gaps existed at dozens of wards, with more votes counted than people tallied in log books.

    The gap has been narrowed to 4,600 by a closer review of election day logs and other records, which authorities placed off-limits to the newspaper during the investigation.

    McCann said: "I will not be satisfied if we cannot uncover that - what the explanation is, or a reasonable explanation."

    In all, about 277,000 people in Milwaukee voted in the election. Thus, the cases identified in the investigation constitute a small portion of the total vote.

    The findings, however, carry extra significance in a state that had an 11,000-vote margin in the presidential contest, one of the closest in the nation.

    Democrat John Kerry topped President Bush in Wisconsin, mainly because of Kerry's margin in Milwaukee and Madison.

    Had a larger state, such as Ohio, gone the other way, it could have led to a Florida-style recount here that would have turned on many of the issues that instead were left for the newspaper to uncover in its extensive investigation.

    The federal-local investigation was launched Jan. 26, a day after the Journal Sentinel reported that some 1,200 votes in the November election came from invalid addresses.

    Among other findings, some 1,300 same-day registration cards were processed by poll workers who allowed people to vote even though the cards were incomplete. Some 548 had no address listed and 48 gave no name - yet the person was allowed to vote. Another 141 listed addresses outside the city.

    The newspaper was denied access to those cards, on the recommendation of the city attorney's office, citing the inquiry.

    While the investigation is still ongoing, they reported today that they found clear evidence of voter fraud, mostly in Milwaukee. More than 200 cases involved felons voting illegally. Also more than 100 people voted twice, used fake names or false addresses, or voted in the name of dead people.
    oops, but since John Kerry won Wisconsin, well, no big outcry about the fake names in Milwaukie... And so forth.

    Investigators Find Evidence of Voter Fraud
    By Juliet Williams
    Associated Press Writer

    Published: May 10, 2005 9:04 PM EST

    MILWAUKEE (AP) - A task force looking into potential voter fraud on Election Day said Tuesday that it found more than 200 felons voted illegally and more than 100 instances of people voting twice or using fake names and addresses.

    hey maybe Tokaji needs to read the same data in the article from a different newspaper

    absence of any evidence of voters attempting to be someone they're not
    now proven to be a bogus argument against implementation of a reasonable and responsible voter identification system.
    There are more bogus arguments, however the argument Tokaji presents is one adopted as the primary opposition to states implementing a responsible voter identification syestem which would verify that voters are who they say they are.
    In Pennsylvania, misinformation was rampant before Rendell vetoed the legislation that would have required all voters to present voter identification.
    The law would not have just applied to voters who show up at the polling place in Pennsylvania, as unfortunately some mistakenly claimed.
    In the letter, the writer claims voters at the polling place would have had to supply a photo identification, and the id only applied to people who showed up at the polls to vote.
    The PA law would have also applied to absentee ballot voters who request an application for an absentee ballot.  With the application, the voter would have had to supply a photocopy of one of the accepted forms of identification.  The forms of id were not restricted to only a photo id or a driver's license.
    Those forms are discussed on another page on the site - they are numerous.
    Currently PA law requires an id be shown at the polls and presented by absentee ballot applicants for only First Time Voters. 
    The change would have affected all voters, not just First Time Voters.
    absence of any evidence of voters attempting to be someone they're not.
    Need more evidence of voters attempting to be somebody they're not?  Vote using somebody else's name, or deceased, or fake names, including dogs and cats?
    That's what we'll be presenting here.
    Florida Voter Fraud Issues January 5, 1998
    Interesting and funny

    Rendell beware the wording...
    Pa. Governor to Veto Voter ID Bill
    By KATHY MATHESON, Associated Press Writer
    ...Rendell, citing a letter from the League of Women Voters, said there is no compelling evidence that any Pennsylvania election has been affected by ineligible people posing as registered voters.
    Right no compelling evidence... well Gov. in a precinct where one vote could make the difference between you and Swann winning the election - just one poser using a deceased's name from the inflated voter registration roll is one too many.
    Let's see what we can find about PA

    Voter Rights vs. Voter Fraud
    Wednesday, October 27, 2004

    America is still a country whose voting practices depend on the honesty of individuals who want to vote, and with every poll showing the presidential race as historically tight, every registration is prized. Even 2002’s Help America Vote Act (search), federal legislation designed to tighten up identification requirements and help more people vote, is subject to local interpretation. The problem, it seems, is the act’s mandate that the country’s election officials use their best efforts to minimize voter disenfranchisement.

    And with that, many of our country’s precinct captains, state attorneys general and election commissioners are off to the races.

    Though one’s honesty is the foundation of one’s ability to vote in America, the system — comprised of voter registration forms, voting rolls and polling places — is designed to offer some safeguard against fraud. The weak link is in the initial registration.,2933,136847,00.html

    This topical archive was created to catalog news and blog coverage of election fraud and suspected election fraud from around the country and around the blogosphere during campaign 2004.

    Tuesday, December 5, 2000
    ...Register and vote in the name of multiple non-existent persons, or dead persons.

    Once again, people are confusing the two stages of this. The first is to present a photo ID, the second stage is that the ID proves you're a citizen. In Colorado, we have to present an ID to vote, although I don't believe it has to be a photo ID, but I would agree it isn't much of a hardship.

    Proving you are a citizen is a whole other matter. Who issues this citizenship ID, the DMV? Here, anyway, that would be a total snarl / chaos / gargantuan headache. Are they equipped to tell forgeries of birth certificates? If you saw a birth certificate from another state, since people do move around a lot, how could you tell if it was legit? My wife, who is a naturalized citizen, had a Colorado Drivers license for years before she became a citizen, all she had to do was prove that she could drive, and that she lived in the state. Nobody asked if she was a citizen or not. Unless you have a passport, can you prove you are a citizen? Does the standard change from state to state?

    There was an article in the local paper today about doing a national ID program, the cost was estimated at $11,000,000,000, and a whole new bureaucracy to go along with the Airport Luggage Rummage Brigade. With this comes the debate about National ID cards, and their use/worth in a country where, theoretically anyway, we value personal liberty. Thats a whole other realm of discussion