MR. MINETA: And so I was not aware that that discussion
had already taken place. But in listening to the conversation between the young man and the vice president, then at the time
I didn't really recognize the significance of that...
MR. ROEMER: Who was the young man with the vice president?
MR. MINETA: Frankly, I don't recall.
Who is the young man ? Mr. Mineta states he doesn't recall. Why didn't the Commission stop the testimony
and request Mineta have a staffer find out, or at least compile a list of names to refresh Mineta's memory. It's not as though
there would be a long list of choices who had the security clearance to be anywhere near the Vice President on any given day,
let alone on a day wherein there is an emergency situation, and further who had the security clearance to be engaging in a
discussion about shoot-down orders.
The Commission gives just the right amount of leeway in time for it to be possible George W. Bush had some
communication with "someone" about a shoot-down order prior to his speech that morning which occurred a set time of 9:30 a.m.
Mineta testifies about the time of 9:20 a.m.
MR. MINETA: I didn't know about the order to shoot down. I arrived at the PEOC at about 9:20 a.m. And the
president was in Florida, and I believe he was on his way to Louisiana at that point when the conversation that went on between
the vice president and the president and the staff that the president had with him.
But we all know that the President was not on his way to Louisiana at that point of 9:20 a.m. to 9:30 a.m.
At that time, George W. Bush remained at the Booker Elementary School, and from my research was in the room
adjacent to the second grade classroom, a room which had been secured by the secret service, according to Bill Sammon's book
Mingling the two together as Mineta does gives Bush the necessary leeway to claim he was involved in giving
the shoot-down order at a time when Cheney and an unidentified young man were talking about just such a shoot-down order and
the Pentagon situation.
9:20 a.m. and some six minutes later.
But, chink in the story. George W. Bush states he and Cheney had a conversation about the shoot-down order
when Bush was aboard Air Force One. Bush didn't leave
the Booker Elementary School until after his 9:30 a.m. exactly speech.
while some reports claim Bush remained in the second grade classroom for 20-25 minutes after learning from
Card that America was under attack, that hasn't panned out by my research.
also see the reference to Bush being aboard Air Force One when he and Cheney discussed the shoot-down order.
9:03 a.m. to 9:07 a.m. enters 2nd grade classroom 9:03-9:04 a.m. children reading practice 9:07 a.m. Andrew Card whispers second plane crash America under attack 9:07 to 9:13 a.m. Card whisper, Bush seated 6 minutes Bush sitting while children reading Message flashed on notepad Card to Bush from
back of room Don't Say Anything Yet 9:13
to 9:30 a.m. Bush enters adjacent classroom holding room Bush views
TV replays Bush talks on phone Bush writes notes on white paper 9:30 a.m.Bush addresses Booker audience 9:31 a.m. to 9:57 a.m. enroute to airport Bush issued the grounding of all flights in the country order from his car boards Air Force One 9:57
a.m. to ? 9:55 a.m. Bush
was in Air Force One talks to V.P. Dick Cheney agrees with advice
of V.P. Dick Cheney shoot-down order