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The Order
 
 
9/11 Commission Hearing Friday, May 23, 2003
 

http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing2/9-11Commission_Hearing_2003-05-23.htm

The order

MR. MINETA: And so I was not aware that that discussion had already taken place. But in listening to the conversation between the young man and the vice president, then at the time I didn't really recognize the significance of that...

MR. ROEMER: Who was the young man with the vice president?

MR. MINETA: Frankly, I don't recall.

Who is the young man ? Mr. Mineta states he doesn't recall. Why didn't the Commission stop the testimony and request Mineta have a staffer find out, or at least compile a list of names to refresh Mineta's memory. It's not as though there would be a long list of choices who had the security clearance to be anywhere near the Vice President on any given day, let alone on a day wherein there is an emergency situation, and further who had the security clearance to be engaging in a discussion about shoot-down orders.

The Commission gives just the right amount of leeway in time for it to be possible George W. Bush had some communication with "someone" about a shoot-down order prior to his speech that morning which occurred a set time of 9:30 a.m.

Mineta testifies about the time of 9:20 a.m.

MR. MINETA: I didn't know about the order to shoot down. I arrived at the PEOC at about 9:20 a.m. And the president was in Florida, and I believe he was on his way to Louisiana at that point when the conversation that went on between the vice president and the president and the staff that the president had with him.

But we all know that the President was not on his way to Louisiana at that point of 9:20 a.m. to 9:30 a.m.

At that time, George W. Bush remained at the Booker Elementary School, and from my research was in the room adjacent to the second grade classroom, a room which had been secured by the secret service, according to Bill Sammon's book FIGHTING BACK.

Mingling the two together as Mineta does gives Bush the necessary leeway to claim he was involved in giving the shoot-down order at a time when Cheney and an unidentified young man were talking about just such a shoot-down order and the Pentagon situation.

9:20 a.m. and some six minutes later.

But, chink in the story. George W. Bush states he and Cheney had a conversation about the shoot-down order when Bush was aboard Air Force One. Bush didn't leave the Booker Elementary School until after his 9:30 a.m. exactly speech.

while some reports claim Bush remained in the second grade classroom for 20-25 minutes after learning from Card that America was under attack, that hasn't panned out by my research.

See http://dirtline.tripod.com/talkacrosstown/id15.html

also see the reference to Bush being aboard Air Force One when he and Cheney discussed the shoot-down order.

9:03 a.m. to 9:07 a.m. enters 2nd grade classroom 9:03-9:04 a.m. children reading practice 9:07 a.m. Andrew Card whispers second plane crash America under attack 9:07 to 9:13 a.m. Card whisper, Bush seated 6 minutes Bush sitting while children reading Message flashed on notepad Card to Bush from back of room Don't Say Anything Yet 9:13 to 9:30 a.m. Bush enters adjacent classroom holding room Bush views TV replays Bush talks on phone Bush writes notes on white paper 9:30 a.m.Bush addresses Booker audience 9:31 a.m. to 9:57 a.m. enroute to airport Bush issued the grounding of all flights in the country order from his car boards Air Force One 9:57 a.m. to ? 9:55 a.m. Bush was in Air Force One talks to V.P. Dick Cheney agrees with advice of V.P. Dick Cheney shoot-down order

http://dirtline.tripod.com/talkacrosstown/id15.html

The following is cited only for the video they've linked.  I do not agree with their assessments on a number of points, but will not go into this at this time.  It is sad that sites mix in Plame - Downing Street Memo and other such topics that have no place in discussion of 9/11 and any discrepancies, anomalies, and so forth.  Including such only discredits whatever they have to say about 9/11.
 
9/11 Truth Movement
 

Jun 20, 2004
no alerts to cockpits 9/11

Oh these september 11 commission hearings, report still thexe people have not asked when exactly Bush learned that airplane/s had been HIJACKED.  Sunday rebroadcast on C-Span from Thursday, June 20, 2004 yes on Father's Day morning

report from 9/11 commission on FAA and Norad.

And nobody has said precisely what the mock exercises that week and that day included, was FEMA present for these exercises where a plane was going to be crashed into a building?

Flight 11 at 8 a.m. began takeoff bound for la 81 passengers

8:13 controller instructed flight to turn right this was the last transmission 16 seconds later no response no response used emergency frequency kept trying to contact at what time ... ok so when was Bush notified 8:24 transmission from flight 11 there was unintelligible transmission now controller knows it was a hijacking...

8:25 and 32 boston notified chain of command hijacked report and heading toward ny air space 8:32 op center at faa report of hijacking and conference calls boston ny cleveland centers

8:34 boston center controller now listen to this A 3RD TRANSMISSION.

From flight 11.  9NOW THEY REALLY KNEW and contacted NORAD  8:37 boston center reached NEADS WE HAVE A HIJACKED AIRPLANE HEADED TOWARD NEW YORK

NEADS ASKS IS THIS AN EXERCISE OR REAL WORLD!!

NEADS COLONEL ROBERT MARR WHO CALLED LARRY ARNOLD AND MARR SOUGHT AUTHORIZATION TO SCRABLE

NOTICE 8:46 AIRPLANES SCRAMBLED, but neads doesn't know where to go...

 

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