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Several recent articles published by the Herald-Standard.com have featured comments by candidates for school board director on the topic of PA state Rep. Tim Mahoney's (D-51st) Plan for countywide school district consolidation.
 
We are encouraged by many of the comments and in particular those, like Connellsville's Area School District candidate Paul Harshman, who see the light and acknowledge what others have already confirmed happens in "larger units" of government, and larger school districts - growth of government, and more bureacracy...
 
And in consolidation of smaller schools into one large district, "even if some savings materialize" (by consolidation of Administrations), it won't help that some superintendents will become "assistant superintendents" and others will expect large raises.

The notion that larger districts have fewer administrators per pupil runs counter to experience."

While measures such as bulk purchasing and cross-district health trusts are sensible cost-savings measures, these can already occur without consolidation.

It's possible that some administrative savings might materialize, but it won't help that some superintendents will become "assistant superintendents" and others will expect large raises.

The notion that larger districts have fewer administrators per pupil runs counter to experience.

The single largest school cost item (about half of every district's budget) is teacher salaries and benefits.

These would become standardized over the newly merged districts. Does anyone believe that salaries will be standardized at any level lower than the highest prevailing in the county?

Copied in part, here.
 

In the Herald-Standard.com article, "Connellsville School Board Candidates Discuss Potential for County School Consolidation"

"Harshman said that a county-wide merger would not be a cost-saving or practical measure.

“There would not be (local) control over your students or day-to-day problems,” he said. “It is not going to save a penny as you are going to need assistant to the assistant to the assistant to run the big school district.”

 

Among the candidates for school board director of the local Laurel Highlands School District one remarked the issue of school district consolidation "will be studied."

Andaloro said she is glad the issue will be studied.

Is the candidate aware the issue of school district consolidation has already been studied.

Studies abound.

What the Research Says (or Doesn’t Say): Consolidation of School Districts

http://educationnorthwest.org/news/1119

Since the consolidation of public schools has been a hot topic for some decades now, with recent revived interest, there have been studies on the impact of consolidating two or more rural school districts into one.  See educationnorthwest.org for highlighted studies, or google search using 'rural schools' or 'rural school districts consolidation impact' or any variation using the term 'rural.'

Also, before Governor Ed Rendell proposed a plan to mandate consolidation of 500 school districts down to 100 school districts, an overwhelmingly productive study had been completed by Standard and Poor at the behest of the PA state Legislative Budget and Finance Committee.

Standard and Poor's Study on the Cost Effectiveness of Consolidating Pennsylvania School Districts commissioned by the PA state Legislative Budget and Finance Committee June 2007

 
The same study was available to state Rep. Tim Mahoney all along since he announced he sought to introduce legislation to enable formation of a 'countywide' school district.
 

LH candidates meet with editorial board
Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 2:00 am | Updated: 7:23 pm, Mon May 9, 2011.

Ten candidates are seeking nominations for the six open slots on the Laurel Highlands School Board. There are five four-year seats open and one two-year seat created by a resignation last year. Nine of the 10 candidates have cross-filed on the Democratic and Republican ballots. They are Lyn Andaloro, Ira Chrise, Bill Elias, Jamie Miller-D'Andrea, Frank Mutnansky, Gary "Putso" Pillar, Norma Santore, Melvyn D. Sepic and Thomas A. Vernon. Robert P. Kovach is seeking only the Democratic nomination.

Eight of the 10 candidates, Andaloro, Chrise, Elias, Miller-D'Andrea, Mutnansky, Pillar, Santore and Sepic are also running for the two-year term on the Democratic ticket; all of those candidates except Chrise are cross-filed on the Republican ballot.

Nine of the 10 candidates met recently with the Herald-Standard Editorial Board to address issues in the district. Kovach chose not to participate in the sessions.

Consolidation of schools

The first question dealt with a study being done to see if money could be saved if there were a county-wide school district with just one superintendent and administrative team.

Miller-D'Andrea noted that consolidating school administration across the county could be cost-effective in the areas of staff development and purchasing and would provide curriculum consistency in the county.

"We have to take into account that administration is only three percent of our budget. Eighty percent is professional and non-professional staff. I do not support cutting staff," Miller-D'Andrea said.

Mutnansky said the time isn't right for county-wide consolidation.

"When the state quits sending money, that's really going to have to be looked at hard, but I don't think we're at that point yet. I don't think people are willing to give up their local school district," Mutnansky said.

Santore said she wants more research and proof that switching to a county-wide system would be better than the current system.

"I don't know if it would be the best thing for the taxpayers or our students," Santore said.

Andaloro said she is glad the issue will be studied. She noted the Intermediate Unit 1 already offers consolidated purchasing program, and Laurel Highlands shares some resources with the Uniontown Area School District.

"I don't want it to be a financial burden on one district. At Laurel Highlands we have a fund balance. Will we burden our taxpayers with the burdens of other school districts?" Andaloro said.

Elias said there are a lot of logistical issues to be dealt with.

"Are you going to try to have all the professional and non-professional employees on the same salary scale? What will you pay the superintendent? How many assistants will you have? The bottom line is, what will it cost the taxpayers? We have four schools in the vo-tech and Laurel Highlands pays the most," Elias said.

Pillar said more data is needed, but it is a good topic for study.

"The only way I could see something like that happening is if we did away with the property tax," Pillar said.

Sepic said that when he first started teaching in 1963 there was just one superintendent for the entire county.

"We have consolidated some school districts in Fayette County to make it more effective. Can we make six school districts one? I don't know," Sepic said.

Vernon said something has to be done to cut educational expenses.

"Anytime someone tells me we can save 10 to 15 percent on our budget, I'm going to listen," Vernon said.

Chrise said the Intermediate Unit shows that some combined services can work, but he said he is not in favor of the county commissioners appointing the county-wide school board members.

"The only way I would totally support a county-wide district would be if it would benefit our students and be a savings for the taxpayers of Laurel Highlands," Chrise said.

http://www.heraldstandard.com/news/local_news/lh-candidates-meet-with-editorial-board/article_cff46d95-4ac8-5872-ac59-6aced4d43424.html

Not Enough Said:

Candidate Miller-D'Andrea would do well to acknowledge such as joint purchasing and health care trusts can already be done by two or more school districts - without Rep. Mahoney's legislation for consolidating districts into a countywide system!
 
 Study after study including Standard and Poor's note this ability already exists via current PA school Code Act.
 
 The S & P Study and those highlighted at Education Northwest also point out costs might be had in some area, but those dwindle in a 'larger' consolidated district. So too do many studies pertaining to 'rural' districts.
 
Why does the legislator go around bashing the PA School Boards Assoc?  Its study, that's why. Merger/consolidation of school districts: Does it save money and improve student achievement?
 
 
Most notable is this Op-Ed School District Consolidation is a Red Herring by Nathan A. Benefield and Fred D. Baldwin 03/03/2009 reposted here Experts Slam Consolidation Small/Medium Size Districts into Larger One
 
 

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