Make your own free website on Tripod.com
Not Enough Said

Cost Savings Claimed 2 Years Before Local Study Begins Now Claim Lowered!

Home
Blog Posts for April 2011
Blog Posts for May 2011
Blog Posts for June 2011
Blog Posts for July 2011
Blog posts for August 2011
Blog Posts for September 2011
Radio Talk Show Host Fails to Study School Consolidation for Fayette County Study
Not Enough Said project of: Net the Truth Online
Rep. Mahoney Reading Not Enough Said? Poses Study Could Show No Savings by Admin. Consolidation?
Fayette Special: Model for Other Power Grabbing PA State Legislators to Follow
PA Rep. Tim Mahoney Proposal to House Education Cmte Shows Goal To Wrest Local Control
County-wide School District Legislation Allows Board of Commissioners Authority to Equalize District
Not Enough Said on This Issue Site per Proposal for Fayette Vo-Tech/STEM Center
Confirmation Why Herald-Standard Didn't Question Rep. About His Advisory Committee
Plan for Countywide School District Consolidation = Fayette Forward Strategic Plan
Report PA School Consolidation Cost Effectiveness
Rep. Mahoney Claims After Consolidation Savings 15% to 20% Where We Ask?
Is Rep. Tim Mahoney About to Change Structure of School Administration All on His Own?
Herald-Standard & Rep. Tim Mahoney in League to Bait & Switch Public
Candidates for School Directors On the Fence or Supportive Urged to View Wealth of Critical Studies
Herald-Standard Disappointed School Board Candidates Not All Rosey County Consolidation
Study: consolidation of school districts into larger units leads to higher dropout rate!
We Can Hear It Now Some of my Opponents Don't Want The People To Decide
We Can Hear it Now: Are You Against the People Deciding Consolidation Choice
Report PA School Boards Association Study on Consolidation 2009
Cost Savings Claimed 2 Years Before Local Study Begins Now Claim Lowered!
Bid Process? Study Weighted to Cost-Savings Due to Results for Center & Monaca Consolidations?
Does Consolidation into Large District Save Costs?
Did Merged Districts Hold True to Standard & Poor Study: Taxes May Rise in 1 District
Merged Monaca & Center School Districts Less than 2,999 Students!
First Eliminate School Property Taxes, Candidate Says, Then We'll See @ Consolidation?
Central Valley School District: Archetype for (Fayette) County-wide Consolidation?
What is the Impact of Consolidation (into larger district) on Students?
What is the Impact of Consolidation (into larger district) on Rural Community?
No Public Referendum Required for Two or More School Districts to Merge
PA Economy League Report Municipal and School District Functional Mergers & Structural Consolidation
Experts Slam Consolidation Small/Medium Size Districts into Larger One
Not Enough Said Requests Talk Show Host Read Standard & Poor Study
Legislation Designed to Enable Boards of County Commissioners Power to Place Measure on Ballot
Article: PA Legislators Push Plans for School Consolidation
Fayette School Director Candidates Take Opposing View of Countywide Consolidation Plan
Get It Spot On and Don't Cover Up When You Don't
Unified Countywide School District for "Taxation Purposes"
Uniformity in the Course of Study in the Schools of the Several Grades
Rep. Mahoney Meets With Herald Standard Editorial Board
PA Dept. of Ed. Retirees Now Education Management Group Consultants to Conduct Study
Promise Local Sub-districts in Countywide School Retain Local Identity
Book of Quotes by Not Enough Said
Links per county-wide school consolidation issue
Contact Me
Stop Uniform Curriculum County-Wide School Consolidation Power Grab
Fayette County Commissioner Candidates Responses to School Regionalization Question
Tribune-Review article per PA school consolidation legislation
Article: Region to Benefit from 2 New STEM Education Centers
Herald-Standard Article: Unity between Business and Education Needed in Fayette County
Marcellus Shale Gas Program of Interest Not an Endorsement
Radio Talk Show Host: Gas Impact Concerns Citizens Demand DEP Resolve
Votefix will be providing an update soon

State legislator Tim Mahoney touts savings of 25% to 30% in 2009 for savings on tax bills if countywide consolidation moves Fayette Forward!

Meanwhile, May 13, 2011 School District Study to Begin by Carla DeSantoro  Mahoney said according to officials in Harrisburg, if the plan is executed properly, school districts could see 15 percent to 20 percent in savings after consolidation.

Notice Rep. Mahoney doesn't cite the study conducted which led officials in Harrisburg to make such a pronouncemet.

Nor does the state legislator say where exactly the savings will arise.

Consolidation of Administrations of six school districts into one countywide school?

Consolidation of other than Administrations of six school districts into one countywide school?

Mahoney reintroduces bill to consolidate school districts for local tax reform

HARRISBURG, Feb.10 (2009)– State Rep. Tim Mahoney, D-Fayette, has again introduced legislation that would provide taxpayer savings by allowing residents to approve the consolidation of smaller school districts in the state into countywide school districts.

Mahoney's legislation (H.B. 351) would allow county commissioners to place a referendum on the ballot asking voters if they support consolidating small school districts into a single, countywide school district for the purposes of administration and taxation. The consolidation process would begin if at least two-thirds of voters approve the referendum.

The Fayette County lawmaker said he agrees with Gov. Ed Rendell's 2009-10 state budget proposal calling for the consolidation of school districts in Pennsylvania.
 

Mahoney said he believes that homeowners could save 25 to 30 percent on their property tax bills if his bill were to become law and get implemented.

http://www.heraldstandard.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20284711&BRD=2280&PAG=461&dept_id=480247&rfi=6

 



 
Not Enough Said:
 
During an appearance on a local talk show program, Let's Talk, WMBS 590, with host, Bob Foltz, on Fri. April 15th, state Rep. Tim Mahoney said he didn't know what the study he'd put out for bid would show as far as cost-savings in a consolidated school district.
 
they might show 15%, or 20% or 1%, he said.
 
That is a far cry from what the legislator promoted as savings of 25% to 30% in 2009 while meeting with the Herald Standard newspaper editorial board as published in a report and an editorial at the time.
 
The editorial board at the time did not question Rep. Mahoney on the savings he touted, nor did they ask him whether a local study he was seeking to fund would include findings if school districts would simply share costs without actual consolidation.
 
What if there are some savings, but the same amount of savings could be gained from cost-sharing as the Standard and Poor study shows can be had with small districts (not to exceed 3,000 students)?

HARRISBURG, Feb.10 (2009) – State Rep. Tim Mahoney, D-Fayette, has again introduced legislation that would provide taxpayer savings by allowing residents to approve the consolidation of smaller school districts in the state into countywide school districts.

Mahoney's legislation (H.B. 351) would allow county commissioners to place a referendum on the ballot asking voters if they support consolidating small school districts into a single, countywide school district for the purposes of administration and taxation. The consolidation process would begin if at least two-thirds of voters approve the referendum.

The Fayette County lawmaker said he agrees with Gov. Ed Rendell's 2009-10 state budget proposal calling for the consolidation of school districts in Pennsylvania.

"We need to review school district consolidation in Pennsylvania to see if we can provide taxpayers with expanded real estate tax savings," Mahoney said.

Mahoney said the process would create a countywide school district for administrative purposes, not necessarily fewer or larger schools within the district. Individual school buildings, facilities, sports teams and mascots would not be impacted, and could remain in place.

Under the measure, a county school board would be formed to govern the new consolidated district. The county board would be composed of seven members and elected from regions within the county divided equally by population.

The state Department of Education would develop regulations and approve the application process for the countywide school consolidation plan.

The legislation is awaiting action in the House Education Committee.

http://www.pahouse.com/PR/051021009.asp

 



Not Enough Said:
 
During an appearance on a local talk show program, Let's Talk, WMBS 590, with host, Bob Foltz, on Fri. April 15th, state Rep. Tim Mahoney talked about his school consolidation plan and said 'some schools would be closed.'
 
That is a far cry from material on his House website in which the state legislator
words things not so clearly, but we get the intent:
 
Mahoney said the process would create a countywide school district for administrative purposes, not necessarily fewer or larger schools within the district.
 
 Individual school buildings, facilities, sports teams and mascots would not be impacted, and could remain in place.
 

Mahoney reintroduces bill to consolidate school districts for local tax reform  

HARRISBURG, Feb.10 (2009)– State Rep. Tim Mahoney, D-Fayette, has again introduced legislation that would provide taxpayer savings by allowing residents to approve the consolidation of smaller school districts in the state into countywide school districts.

Mahoney's legislation (H.B. 351) would allow county commissioners to place a referendum on the ballot asking voters if they support consolidating small school districts into a single, countywide school district for the purposes of administration and taxation. The consolidation process would begin if at least two-thirds of voters approve the referendum.

The Fayette County lawmaker said he agrees with Gov. Ed Rendell's 2009-10 state budget proposal calling for the consolidation of school districts in Pennsylvania.

"We need to review school district consolidation in Pennsylvania to see if we can provide taxpayers with expanded real estate tax savings," Mahoney said.

Mahoney said the process would create a countywide school district for administrative purposes, not necessarily fewer or larger schools within the district. Individual school buildings, facilities, sports teams and mascots would not be impacted, and could remain in place.

Under the measure, a county school board would be formed to govern the new consolidated district. The county board would be composed of seven members and elected from regions within the county divided equally by population.

The state Department of Education would develop regulations and approve the application process for the countywide school consolidation plan.

The legislation is awaiting action in the House Education Committee.

http://www.pahouse.com/PR/051021009.asp

Not Enough Said:

Even though there would be one school board director elected per sub-district under Rep. Tim Mahoney's school consolidation plan, how would an issue such as 'nepotism' be resolved?
 
Though there would be some accountability by electing, not appointing, directors (as was a feature in an initial consolidation plan presented by Rep. Mahoney), there is no guarantee such hirings would not occur as they have with regular independent school boards in the past.
 
 
 

Not Enough Said

dare 4 liberty

Not Enough Said got a start in early May  2011

Net the Truth Online and Dare Inquire Representatives Truth  remain current sites that preceded this site.
 

Notenough Said

Create Your Badge

site devoted to revealing half-truths or untruths, distortions... finding political motivations among elected officials and putting them on display...